mobyduck648

The chickens of security through obscurity are coming home to roost.

It’s definitely an interesting point of view I think, and definitely one worth taking seriously.

One thing it might be really cool for is implementing cybernetic ideas, which would be ironic as the term AI was originally coined to move away from cybernetics! I think cybernetics could well be the weapon of choice for a serious socialist challenge to capitalist norms, I don’t think anyone sane wants to bring Gosplan back from the dead for example (it was a good example of very constrained and unreliable information flow) but cybernetics is a serious answer to the neoliberal argument that only prices carry the necessary economic information to operate a modern economy.

The cyberneticist would argue that there are much richer data available and we should build systems which take it into account, and allow for more sophisticated goals than ‘more billionaires’ to be deliberately aimed towards. It can also be used to do away to some extent with all-powerful centralised bureaucracies (and the inevitable bureaucratic class which forms around them) because decentralisation is a key component of cybernetic ideas.

It depends, if Anthropic keep nerfing Claude’s capabilities they’re going to lose to their competitors. I’ve been doing defensive cybersecurity work for the last couple of weeks and Claude, a tool which should be ideal for automating the tedious parts of this, has been a complete pain in the arse.

Claude: I’ve found a security bug in your codebase that nobody knows about!

Me: Oh shit that’s not good, can I see it?

Claude: <blocked by safety classifier>

Repeat ad nauseam.

The prissy little bastard’s recalcitrance made me to do a lot of stuff by hand anyway, but instead of being bored I’m now actively irritated by the bot telling me what I can and can’t do. Obviously can’t use them at work for regulatory reasons, but when I was doing similar stuff at home to secure a side project which has to live on the public internet GLM and DeepSeek have no such qualms and honestly I’m convinced the whole ‘DeepSeek is the budget option’ thing is mostly behavioural economics; the cheapness to me feels like efficiency gains more than nerfing the model.

I wonder if AI will leave much progress behind when it implodes.

I think it will, it’s the one bit of AI optimism I actually have. I have a theory the big AI firms love for example Yudkowsky’s doomsday cult so much because it’s easier for them to imagine the end of humanity than it is to imagine them not getting an extractive oligopoly over an emerging technology.

The tech itself is actually decent as tech, it’s not what the boosters claim it is but even if development stopped advancing today there’s loads of niches it’d be changing for a long time; computer vision in medical settings for example. Useful things like TTS will be much better going forward than they ever were, and for better and worse things like computer vision in general (ie in public) will never be the same. LLMs are basically magic NLP boxes too, they’re useful for classification as much as generating slop.

Yeah I noticed this, moved from a semi-rural area to a city centre and stuff is way more locked down against shoplifters.

Yeah it’s a pain in the arse, I’m old enough to feel complimented when I get challenge 25’d but for energy drinks it’s just annoying.

Realistically the golden oldies still slow everything down, I’m usually buying at least an energy drink which locks it down until you’ve shown you’re not bloody sixteen. Given how understaffed the shops are, that’s not getting unlocked until Doris or Nigel has finished with their basket.

Yeah every time in Tesco it takes longer for me as the badly calibrated scale and cheap crappy scanner fall down. I hate the faux-cheery voice that blares at you while it doesn’t work too, you used to be able to mute it but no we all have to listen to that patronising fucker now.

To be fair, it’s going to be more like running an electric kettle constantly which isn’t going to excessively load the grid.

Unless you’re in the UK of course where the grid operators have to manage capacity around half time of major football games as everyone puts a brew on at once.