• hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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    6 days ago

    Some countries, like Australia, where I live, have transitioned from defined benefits to defined contributions. Bond yields are still higher here.

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      6 days ago

      It’s ultimately a global market. But every defined benefits plan active, adds to demand for bonds. Lowering the yield.

      Defined contribution schemes are bad for the people selling bonds, e.g. people buying homes, governments and mega corps

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        5 days ago

        However, they are good for stock markets and large projects as investment vehicles, so they do hekp government, businesses and can be used to promote projects that benefit their members, eg union based ones can promote tjeir own industry.

        The suoerannuation funds in australua have now grown large enough in aggregate to be market movers.

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          5 days ago

          But that’s two different funding mechanics.

          Defined benefit, buys bonds. So the government wants to build a metro in Sydney, borrow the money and own 100%.

          Defined contribution, buys ownership. So the government wants to build a metro in Sydney, sells 40% ownership to fund the building phase.

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            5 days ago

            Yes, different mechanisms and different outcomes. However, that doesn’t make one better for business as you mentioned. They just act in different ways for all parties.