• diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 days ago

    Most accurate description of Element I’ve ever heard to be honest. It’s literally just Discord, with all of it’s bloat, but with a protocol that wants to have “security” bolted on. And all of the security related dialogs have race conditions in them. Actually, not just in Element, all clients, even nheko and fluffychat, have race conditions in the fucking security dialogs. All of my devices are just unverified now, I just gave up.

    XMPP at least functions reliably, if you ignore all of the protocol extensions and use it like IRC with images of course.

    Tox supermacy! Though the main and only good Android client got archived. But like, whatever. Fuck phones anyway.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah but XMPP sounds so techy you know… /s

      I bet that if someone scraped together the bare minimum and found a catchy name it’d be the winner easily.

      Et-tu-Brutus would slay IMO.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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        5 days ago

        Yeah but XMPP sounds so techy you know.… /s

        the trick is to not mention XMPP to the end users. if they dig deep in the app settings they can find it out, but otherwise all that end users need to know is just, download the app named conversations, and use this domain and username. the domain could likely be hidden from them by deep linking, and sending the link in a company email. then they just need to log in as anywhere else.